Just let it ride. You may have a wonderful wild culture in your area. I personally wouldn’t put anything infected on my kegs unless I have a dedicated “wild” keg.Hey guys.
I had this happen on the last batch as well. I would like to store beer in carboys until I need it but this film keeps popping up.
The last batch I kegged immediately when I saw the film and the beer was great. I really don’t want to keg this one now but should I before it gets funky? View attachment 780837
This sounds like terrible advice all the way around lol.
You don’t drink mix fermentations? I actually have you solid advice. That said I purposely pitch wild cultures/BrettThis sounds like terrible advice all the way around lol.
Remember, your the one with poor sanitation lol
i remember @IslandLizard helped me out and told me to fix something like that by putting the fermenter in the sunlight and open air....i totally took it out of context, but worked for me....
Deleted, incorrect assumptioni just know to grown some mushrooms, you just pasturize, not sterilize the substrate...otherwise the mycilium doesn't have any friends and gets it's ass kicked...
i'm not sure if it's GREAT advice, but it is reality, and food for thought...
I guess I don't follow what you are saying. I should let it ride and drink 10 gallons of gym socks, and throw away glass carboys that can be sanitized.You don’t drink mix fermentations? I actually have you solid advice. That said I purposely pitch wild cultures/Brett
Remember, your the one with poor sanitation lol
You don’t drink mix fermentations? I actually have you solid advice. That said I purposely pitch wild cultures/Brett
Remember, your the one with poor sanitation lol
I guess I don't follow what you are saying. I should let it ride and drink 10 gallons of gym socks, and throw away glass carboys that can be sanitized.
I’ve only ever seen the plastic carboys have those ridges, so I assumed. That was my fault.I guess I don't follow what you are saying. I should let it ride and drink 10 gallons of gym socks, and throw away glass carboys that can be sanitized.
My main question is, is this definitely a infection?
Thanks for the thorough answer above. Your reading is dead on, my last batch had a similar thing going on and I kegged it immediately, tasted great. I was hoping to keep this one in carboys but it has a similar infection.Certainly looks like the beginnings of a pellicle with the film, slick bubbles, and the way the film has defined “broken” edges.
My reading comprehension must not be too good, I thought you meant this has happened back to back. Like two beers in a row
Yes. Microbes/wild yeast can work at fridge temps (most brewery’s yeasts have been trained or selected to go dormant at low temps). Real world example is food, milk, and non pasteurized fruit juices/items go “bad” in the fridge.Thanks for the thorough answer above. Your reading is dead on, my last batch had a similar thing going on and I kegged it immediately, tasted great. I was hoping to keep this one in carboys but it has a similar infection.
Your comment about funky kegs, I never store warm beer in kegs I always keg and go to a refer. Have you had funky beer from dirty refrigerated kegs?
I guess I was asking about beer specifically. Have you ever had a keg of beer spoil.Yes. Microbes/wild yeast can work at fridge temps (most brewery’s yeasts have been trained or selected to go dormant at low temps). Real world example is food, milk, and non pasteurized fruit juices/items go “bad” in the fridge.
Are you using the same yeast strain? I've had yeast do this before, looks like a pellicle but no off flavors or other signs of infection.Hey guys.
I had this happen on the last batch as well. I would like to store beer in carboys until I need it but this film keeps popping up.
The last batch I kegged immediately when I saw the film and the beer was great. I really don’t want to keg this one now but should I before it gets funky? View attachment 780837
Different yeast.Are you using the same yeast strain? I've had yeast do this before, looks like a pellicle but no off flavors or other signs of infection.
I will nuke everything on the next run.
Your racking tubing perhaps? Any fittings or spigots that can harbor bugs?it is just strange, I have never had a racking infection, now I have two in row
Your racking tubing perhaps? Any fittings or spigots that can harbor bugs?
Is that your primary fermenter, not a secondary, right?
BTW, is that tube hanging in the center an auto siphon?
Damn, sounds like a decent Fat Tire clone, what a waste!!Well boys, 15 batches successfully brewed and kegged since I got back into brewing I suppose this was going to happen at least once. I do remember brew night being a bit of a drunken haze so I’m sure my usual routine went to the wayside. Here she is in all of her glory. What started as my delicious centennial IPA Tasted like burnt tires filled with hair. Down the drain it went. View attachment 783761
Lol!!! I needed that! Well played sirDamn, sounds like a decent Fat Tire clone, what a waste!!
No idea. Post a picture and find out lolis this still the main thread for posting potential infections or do you just make your own thread now? I've been away for a few years
no pellicule, just this weird alien lifeform on my Kveik last night pre-bottle. Tastes fineNo idea. Post a picture and find out lol
That looks like mold. Should not be that powdery blue/green. I personally wouldn’t drink it as mold produce toxins.no pellicule, just this weird alien lifeform on my Kveik last night pre-bottle. Tastes fine
https://ibb.co/QrJ1Tc9
As @Dgallo said, that bluish green powder surely looks like mold. That's never good!no pellicule, just this weird alien lifeform on my Kveik last night pre-bottle. Tastes fine
https://ibb.co/QrJ1Tc9
This is more of a "showcase" thread, showing (beautiful) pictures of pellicles and infections.is this still the main thread for posting potential infections or do you just make your own thread now? I've been away for a few years
You could start your own thread if you want more in detail discussion about it.
What are those yellowish looking kernels? Looks like corn...
Any clue how that could have developed? Did you add something to your beer while fermenting?
No idea. They were squishy. There were a few more instaces of blue/green mold among the krausen but I still don't think all of the beer got infected, just whatever this was?
Did you scrape/ladle, pick those green mold patches off the top?No idea. They were squishy. There were a few more instaces of blue/green mold among the krausen but I still don't think all of the beer got infected, just whatever this was? Maybe a foreign body got into the beer before adding the yeast.
no pellicule, just this weird alien lifeform on my Kveik last night pre-bottle. Tastes fine
https://ibb.co/QrJ1Tc9
Did you scrape/ladle, pick those green mold patches off the top?
It's possible to remove them completely if they're floating on top, although the green dust may disperse somewhat. Maybe you can scoop that off too.
If that beer is done fermenting, you can probably package it by racking the clear/clean beer carefully from underneath the surface, while leaving the surface mostly undisturbed, and the trub on the bottom.
Give the beer a taste, maybe it's just fine. Just don't serve to others without first informing them mold grew on there, showing the picture above, and the potential health risk of consuming products contaminated with mold.
Something was or got into your fermenter or beer at some point, resulting in the green mold patches. Mold needs moisture and oxygen to grow, indicating the headspace CO2 was compromised. So review your cleaning and sanitation regimen. A dirty siphon or racking hose left damp can harbor mold, spores, and bacteria that get transferred, then grow under the right conditions, and voilà!
That was my thought too... corn.What are those yellowish looking kernels? Looks like corn...
If your fermenter is stainless then you should be fine. Use starSan at double the concentration and with 140*f water (wear gloves when it’s doubled) let it sit for 20 minutes. That should take care of it. Mold spores are airborne and only can live in o2 rich environments, meaning you definitely had o2 present in your headspace.We racked to bottle bucket carefully without transferring any of the mold as it was floating on the top and we drained from the bottom tap. Beer tasted fine, and it will be only myself and my gf who drink it.
As for cleaning/sanitising, we're using Mangrove Jack's cold water detergent, rinse out and then Star San (no rinse). We pour directly from kettle into fermenter, no transfer tubing or siphoning.
I've never had issues like this in the past, the only thing I can't eliminate is the fermenter - it's a stainless steel one but it could be cheap quality? We also got a metallic staining around the krausen ring which I've not had in the past.
And your fv has to be open to the air when you add hot liquid, otherwise it can vacuumIf your fermenter is stainless then your should be ok. Use starSan at double the concentration and with 140*f water (wear gloves when it’s doubled) let it sit for 20 minutes. That should take care of it. Mold spores are airborne and only can live in o2 rich environments, meaning you definitely had o2 present in your headspace.
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