kladue said:The VR8304M Dual Valve Combination Gas Control is the gas control valve in this package
Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me
kladue said:The VR8304M Dual Valve Combination Gas Control is the gas control valve in this package
rmaloney86 said:Man I'm frustrated, I built a system designed around this but i can't get it to work, I have everything completed, I just have to get this sucker to spark and I can start brewing, I have the PID wired correctly it is working like a charm, I get it to call for heat but I can't seem to get the spark module LED to even light up. I'm checking it tonight with a multimeter that will tell me exactly what voltage its getting, I didn't have one before that would tell me, just a cheap one that says hey there is voltage here. I'm worried the spark module is damaged but can't be sure until I go through the troubleshooting list.
rmaloney86 said:Yeah, I switched it to that. Thanks!
Ah, thought it may have been something silly like that. First thing I would check is that you are for sure getting 24v to the module, if you are, I would change out the retry tab. With my hot surface modules, I had to go to the the 7 second trial tab to give the gas time to get from the valve to the burner. That being said, I'm not even sure if the spark pilots are set up the same. Keep us posted though, I am interested to hear what you find out. Maybe kladue or sawdustguy will weigh in here. They know a heck of a lot more about this than I do.
One more question...do you have the pid switching the neutral 24v wire going to the ignition module?
This is my second thread designed to help those who may be building a new brewery. I was asked some of these questions recently and decided it would be handy information to have documented on the forum. Again, before I get flamed, I am not insinuating anyone reading this forum or post is a dummy.
The system below utilizes a Honeywell Y8610U intermittent pilot propane or natural gas valve kit (Intermittent Pilot Retrofit Kit). I feel this method may be a touch safer than the Brutus 10 method because there is no concearn over your pilot blowing out.
The Y8610U includes the following features:
Y8610U kits can be used with either natural or LP gas.
Y8610U provides a 90 second maximum ignition trial, shuts off, waits six minutes nominal, then reinitiates the pilot ignition sequence. The ignition trial, shutoff, and wait cycle repeat until the pilot lights or the call for heat ends.
Y8610U kits can be used with either natural or LP gas; it provides timed trial for ignition and 100 percent pilot shutoff on loss of flame.
Each Y8610U kit includes:
S8610U Intermittent Pilot Module.
VR8304M Dual Valve Combination Gas Control.
392431 Igniter-Sensor* (Not used for this Application you will need to purchase a Q345A1313. See Below).
394800-30 Ignition Cable.
393691 Natural to LP Gas Conversion Kit.
Wiring Harness.
393690-14 Straight Flange Kit (3/4 in.) .
Reducer adapters for gas control.
Adhesive mounting option for S8610.
Installation hardware.
You will also need a Pilot Burner and Orifice.
Q345A1313 Pilot Burner/Sensor Assembly.
390868-1 0.010" Orifice for Q345A1313.
The diagram below describes a low pressure propane system designed to control the temperature of a HLT. It can be used to control the temperature of any of the three vessels in your brewery. IMPORTANT: This system is designed for low pressure propane or Natural Gas. If using Propane, please make sure your propane regulator is set for 11 WC or less than 0.5 lbs pressure. Please make sure you read and understand the instructions accompanying the Y8610U kit from Honeywell before proceding. The information presented in this post can be found in that document also.
The Y8610U can be purchased from Patriot Supply. Their Ebay Store is (Patriot Supply Ebay Store).
The SYL4352 and Thermocouple can be purchased from Auber Instruments. Their URL is (Auber Instruments Website).
Can someone please confirm that the SLY-4342 PID is the correct one for this application and NOT the SLY-4252? I ordered two SLY-2252 (same as the 4252, just smaller) and now I'm worried they're the wrong ones. Want to make sure before I try wiring anything.
Can someone please confirm that the SYL4352 PID is the correct one for this application and NOT the SYL4342? I ordered two SYL2352 (same as the 4352, just smaller) and now I'm worried they're the wrong ones. Want to make sure before I try wiring anything.
This is the one I ordered: http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=3
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