I left it there. Ugh.
This is my feeling exactly, this will be the last thing I ever buy from New Belgium. They used to be one of my favorites back in the day too. I also think Bell's is on the way down too, same owner...When I buy Fat Tire, I expect it to be the same beer that it used to be. For those of us who don't keep up with the recipe changes, I feel that the breweries should either give the new version a new name or make it clear on the packaging that it has been changed. Otherwise, it's a bait-and-switch.
meh.I also think Bell's is on the way down too, same owner...
Have you used it? Just wondering how important it is since they basically say that US-05 is an acceptable substitute.their "house yeast": Imperial Yeast A62 Bell's House Yeast
Not yet.Have you used it [Bell's House Yeast]?
So you've brewed their kit with their hops and US-05? Because that's what I'm thinking about doing soon.I have brewed with their "Select" hops in the past and enjoyed the difference.
I have, it's more of an English yeast than US-05, it's a good one too.Have you used it? Just wondering how important it is since they basically say that US-05 is an acceptable substitute.
This was the same sentiment that was expressed about New Belgium after they were purchased that nothing would change and in fact be better. Huge misnomer it's only a matter of time for Bells better get it before things change.meh.
With regard to home brewing, as of today, Bell's General Store (link) has for sale
Which is basically what Bells' General Store was selling before the merger.
- home brew kits for the beers they brew and sell
- their "house yeast": Imperial Yeast A62 Bell's House Yeast
- "Select Hops" : from the web site (link) "These are the same hand-selected hops we use to make our own beers in the brewery."
Is there spelling error in the thread title?
Didn't you mean to write Flat Tire [...]
meh.This was the same sentiment that was expressed about New Belgium after they were purchased that nothing would change and in fact be better.
Things are always changing.Huge misnomer it's only a matter of time for Bells better get it before things change.
I have brewed with the "Select" hops (centennial, cascasde, golding), but not the kit.So you've brewed their kit with their hops and US-05?
They might be referring to the solar power - see this article: New Belgium Brewing adds solar to North Carolina facilityGotta love 'carbon neutral' branding. Isn't that just recycling their CO2? What about the rest of their energy consumption? You can definitely tell they are trying to attract the younger crowd.
I tried it on Sunday, and this was my take: it's "fine." It's a very non-descript beer now. There's nothing that sets it apart.I had the new recipe last week. It's...fine. It still has some of that biscuit malt taste but it's toned down and a less interesting beer. I tried it out of curiosity but I bet I'll buy it as often as I did the old recipes these days, which is once every few years. Fat Tire was one of the few craft beers I could find regularly for a long time when I first got into beer where I lived. I've drank a lot of it but don't tend to pick it up anymore.
I wonder if this is just a marketing move to try to get people excited about Fat Tire. According to their market research Fat Tire was still a huge seller before the recipe change. I could see them running this recipe for a year or so and then bringing back the old one like public outcry made them do it. NB tried to break out Fat Tire as a string of beers like Voodoo Ranger with a lot less success. I wonder if this is an attempt to refresh the whole brand concept.
Seems a bit better than what fat tire did.Sam Adams Boston Lager also got a recipe change.
https://www.americancraftbeer.com/samuel-adams-beer-remasters-its-iconic-boston-lager/
Does anyone understand what they mean by this?they’ve added a process to reduce filtration using a traditional German practice of biological acidification, resulting in a brighter, easier-drinking beer.
I haven't tried the new version yet. I was at a restaurant last week and ordered 2 Sam Adams for my wife and me thinking they with bring us Boston Lager but they brought us Cold Snap. Still a good beer, but not was I was expecting.I picked up a half case of Boston Lager, the old version. It's been a long time, and I think I like it more now than I ever have, really lovely brew.
I was unfamiliar with sauergut, but if that's all they're doing differently then I suppose it's an acceptable tweak - the change may not even be perceived by all, but it generates some new buzz for the beer. Clever.
Yeah, one of these things is not like the others if you know what I mean. Personally, I don't think I have a right to expect them to lose money just so I can buy a couple of six packs a year....Anchor is stopping distribution outside CA plus killing their Christmas Ale...
Reminds me of when Miller got their grubby hands on North American distribution for Löwenbräu back in the '70s. Miller imported it from Germany for a while, then started brewing it here and "adapted the recipe" for American tastes.
Like the old engineering trope: If you mess with something long enough, eventually you'll break it.
Anchor is stopping distribution outside CA plus killing their Christmas Ale.
It's like the others in that it's a big change that people will probably be disappointed about. Steam is one of my all-time favorites and I loved the Christmas beer. Relieved they'll still be in business though...at first i thought they were folding.Yeah, one of these things is not like the others if you know what I mean. Personally, I don't think I have a right to expect them to lose money just so I can buy a couple of six packs a year.
The two bolded statements have a lot to do with each other. The larger, legacy craft brewers are under attack from a lot of directions and smaller local brewers are one of the biggest collective assailants. They can brew beers that larger breweries just can't get into national distribution as easily. There has also been a long shift towards locavore that favors the local taproom.Yeah, it's New Belgium in name only now. I'll never quite understand how people can sell out and allow what they've built to be transformed into something unrecognizable, but maybe i wouldn't be a good business person.
I had the "remastered" Sam Adams recently. That's another loss. For me, they've dulled it and removed the most enjoyable qualities, now it's something I don't care about. They say they didn't alter the recipe, but is a major change in process not altering the recipe? lol sure tastes like it.
And now Sierra Nevada just stopped producing their famous Stout, and Anchor is stopping distribution outside CA plus killing their Christmas Ale.
Well there are plenty of small and local breweries doing great things, so we can't be sad for too long.
New Belgium is a US brewery, not Belgian.A question about the yeast for Fat Tire, as it’s brewed by New Belgium why does it use US yeasts rather than Belgian one?
Yup and owned by lion who's an Australian subsidiary of Kirin out of Japan.New Belgium is a US brewery, not Belgian.
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